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works as claimed May 12, 2010
By Friend Before I bought this product I did plenty of online research on alkaline water. I was trying to understand what the benefits were and why people would pay thousands of dollars for the water ionizers. Some of the conclusions that I came to was that the alkalinity of the water was not the beneficial aspect of the water ionizers, but rather the antioxidant effects of the water. As I understand, the antioxidant effects of water or solution is measured in ORPs, which stands for Oxidation Reduction Potential, also called Redox. ORPs also measure the oxidizing effects of water.
The effects of oxidation can be witnessed when metal rusts, when a sliced apple browns, or when a material is burning. Oxidation probably works similarly in the human body, though I am not a biologist or scientist and cannot make any claims. It seems that this is why antioxidants are so popular and said to be such an important part of the body's diet. If oxidation has the effect of breaking down, then antioxidants could be said to have the effect of building up, or at least not breaking down. Please do your own research to verify the accuracy of this information.
We were contemplating purchasing one of the less expensive water ionizers ($700 range), but it didn't seem to make sense when some of the portable and inexpensive water ionizers such as this stick were making claims of producing negative ORP, which would be antioxidant water (I think). The expensive machines claim to produce water with an ORP in the range of anywhere from -200 to as high (or low) as -1100. As you might guess, ORP in the negative range is an antioxidant, whereas ORP in the positive range is an oxidant (again I think). I don't know where exactly the transition point is, meaning if 0 ORP is perfectly neutral or not.
So I decided to purchase a digital ORP meter ($100) that also measured pH at the same time I ordered the portable ionizer sticks (I ordered a NewCell Alkaline Hydrogen Portable Water Ionizer Stick and a Alkaline Hydrogen Water Stick aka Diet Water Ion Stick), since using a meter is the only way to determine the ORP and this is the critical measurement. Fortunately everything arrived at the same time. Over the next few days I ran a battery of tests using different waters and taking measurements before using the stick and after. The tests were performed in my kitchen and not highly controlled, although I did do my best by rinsing everything with each new sample using the water of that particular sample as the rinse. By the way, the two portable ionizer sticks were identical, the only difference was that one cost twice as much.
Per the instructions on the portable water ionizer I placed the stick inside of a water bottle and shook for 30 seconds, then let sit for 20 minutes. I took before and after samples. Here are the results of the tests:
These first two tests I did out of the box, the remaining 7 I did a few days later.
Tap water
Before
pH: 8.17
ORP: 490
After
pH: 9.02
ORP: -125
Distilled water
Before
pH: 6.9
ORP: 230
After
pH: 10.02
ORP: -80
These tests I did a few days after I had the ionizer sticks and had been using them frequently (I only used one stick for all of the test so that the results would be consistent, though I get similar results from either stick):
Tap water
Before
pH: 8.29
ORP: 579
After
pH: 8.75
ORP: 75
Distilled water
Before
pH: 6.45
ORP: 350
After
pH: 10.06
ORP: 13
Arrowhead brand
Before
pH: 7.82
ORP: 243
After
pH: 8.41
ORP: 50
Crystal Geyser brand
Before
pH: 6.88
ORP: 260
After
pH: 7.34
ORP: 4
Safeway brand spring water
Before
pH: 7.67
ORP: 251
After
pH: 8.75
ORP: 24
Evian brand
Before
pH: 7.49
ORP: 258
After
pH: 8.0
ORP 10
Fuji brand
Before
pH: 7.88
ORP: 262
After
pH: 8.07
ORP 23
Conclusions: As you can see from the results the ionizer sticks had the most significant effects on the distilled and tap waters. Also, I forgot to remove the stick one morning and it sat in the water for almost 2 hours. It raised the pH of the water by about another half point from the standard results but had no appreciable effects on the ORP. It seems that shaking the water vigorously for a longer period of time will get you lower ORP.
I think that these products are definitely worth the money, and I would recommend purchasing an ORP meter if you are serious about getting the results you want.
I hope this information helped you.
UPDATE:
Sorry, I forgot to do the update earlier. About a month after having these units, I noticed that he ORP was not lowering much with use. So I decided to try to clean the units. I read somewhere in another review that using vinegar would help. So I did this. I soaked it in vinegar and shook it like I did when using it normally. Then I drained it after a minute or so, and had to rinse it by adding clean water and shaking as if I were using it normally. I had to do this several times to eliminate the smell of vinegar.
This process dramatically increased the effectiveness of the unit. I didn't record the numbers but I remember that it was performing similarly to when it was new. A couple or a few weeks later I measured the ORP again and noticed again that it was steadily declining (moving higher into the positive range), so I did the cleaning process again. This time I soaked it and forgot about it for about 10 or 15 minutes, letting it soak in the vinegar. After cleaning out the vinegar, I noticed that there were bits and pieces of the filtering materials that were coming out of the unit into the water. After about a dozen thorough rinsings, this would not stop. I have up after about a dozen rinses believing that I ruined the unit by soaking it in vinegar for a prolonged period of time, and threw it away.
25 of 25 found the following review helpful:
Hydrogen Water Stick Works Wonderfully Jun 28, 2010
By Philly Girl Okay, I bought this water stick because of the review by the other buyer which was the only review but a very good review. I also bought the 2G water Ionizer off of Amazon.com as well and it works fabulously getting great ORPS and pH's. I bought the Hanna Instruments HI 98121 pH/ORP/Temperature Tester, [...], because the first reveiwer spoke of having a pH and orp reader and wanted to test the 2G water ionizer's water.
I have Patella Femoral Syndrome/Chondromalacia Patella and slight arthritis behind both knee caps for about 3 years now (I'm 42). Weight bearing exercises do decrease the pain but my full time job, part time school, and full time Mom and Wife responsibilities prevent me from working out like I used to. I just say that since drinking ionized water (and trying to eat foods that are right for my metabolic type) have just about made my knee problems disappear.
I will have to come back and enter the actual readings I've had because I wrote them down but don't have them handy. I've tested bottled water, tap water, filtered water, ionized water, and a mixture of ionized and filtered water. I've tested using one stick in a 24 ounce portable water bottle and 2 sticks in a 24 ounce water bottle and I must tell you that the two sticks work tons better than just one. I used half and half ionized/filtered water yesterday while bike riding at about 8:30am. Before riding the mixture was at about a -38 ORP and 8.0 pH. I got home about 11:30 am and totally forgot about my water bottle and didn't get it off of my bike until about 9:00 pm. So it had been sitting on the bike all this time. I decided to test the ORP and pH and to my surprise, the ORP was over -300 and the pH over 10. I stopped waiting for the numbers to finish climbing because I wanted to watch one of my favorite shows on cable.
This product works. Now I must say that it seems to work best on filtered water or mixed filtered/ionized water than just plain tap or even plain ionized water. I tried it on ionized water that had just been treated and it appeared to make the water's ORP decrease at a faster rate than normal.
I'm gonna purchase a few more for my husband and daughters as well so they can have this healthier version of water.
8 of 8 found the following review helpful:
Newcell Alkaline Hydrogen Portable Water Ionizer Stick Nov 30, 2010
By Cate I have used the Alkaline water stick for several weeks. My water has a sweeter taste to it. I have been testing the larger machines that you hook up to your water faucet and find the water stick to be just as effective.If you are looking for a convenient low cost alternative for your water purification give the Alkaline water stick a try.
8 of 8 found the following review helpful:
works great but the screen on mine moved and stuff fell out so i had to use a pin to move it back.. Nov 05, 2010
By J. Lyons
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i kknow that sounds weird but it changed the ph on my walmart water from 6.0 to 8.0 and the price is incredibly cheap compared to others i've came across $13 - $145 i was expeting a tea bag but it is stainless steel so i'll have to move the screen once in a while with a pin but i can buy alot of pins for $130 i plan to buy more when i get money thanks!!
3 of 3 found the following review helpful:
Healthier water Mar 23, 2011
By Flossy Easy to use cheaper and more convenient then buying alkaline bottled water - has relieved a lot of my aches and pains caused by too much acid in my body. Would recommend this product drinking water is vital for good health and making sure it is alkaline water is even better.
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